[QuadList] QuadList Digest, Vol 26, Issue 20

Mon Aug 16 13:17:20 CDT 2010

On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:17 PM, David C. Crosthwait wrote:
>
>> It's difficult to say if the Cyd show (whole or in segments) will  
>> ever be posted or released in any form, due to legal rights. I have  
>> asked about this specifically.
>> We will see. If we ever meet up, I will show you personally the  
>> segments.

I noticed that the "Meet Cyd Charisse" segment on "The Mothers-in-Law" DVD says 
it was courtesy of the Cyd Charisse Estate from Tony Martin and Michael 
Feinstein, so it would seem it would be up to them whether or not the entire 
program is released.

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: What did he say??? (Tim Stoffel)
  2. Re: Early Quad Color--"Saving Cyd Charisse" gets    a secondlook
      at AMIA's The Reel Thing, this Saturday. (Dennis Degan)
  3. Re: Early Quad Color--"AMIA's The Reel Thing" Sessions    were
      videotaped. (Ted Langdell)
  4. Re: Early Quad Color--"AMIA's The Reel Thing"    Sessions    were
      videotaped. (Gary Adams)
  5. Re: Early Quad Color--"AMIA's The Reel Thing" Sessions    were
      videotaped. (Dennis Degan)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:19:53 -0700
From: Tim Stoffel <tim at lionlamb.us>
To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
Cc: Tim Stoffel <tim at knpb.org>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] What did he say???
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On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 09:22 -0700, C. Park Seward wrote:
> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/3620082/681584446/name/Entabulator.wmv
> 
> Only for the truly technical.
> 
> Best,
> Park
> 
Wow! Can anyone say 'Nobel prize'?

;-)
Tim Stoffel

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:30:27 -0400
From: Dennis Degan <DennyD1 at verizon.net>
To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Early Quad Color--"Saving Cyd Charisse" gets    a
    secondlook at AMIA's The Reel Thing, this Saturday.
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>         On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:17 PM, David C. Crosthwait wrote:
>
>> It's difficult to say if the Cyd show (whole or in segments) will  
>> ever be posted or released in any form, due to legal rights. I have  
>> asked about this specifically.
>> We will see. If we ever meet up, I will show you personally the  
>> segments.
>
>         I acknowledged:
>
>     I appreciate that, but I was thinking more of the live  
> presentations themselves by the participants.  I was wondering if a  
> camera was present with podium audio to capture the technical  
> discussions on how the restorations were done, etc.
>     David, you've got to bring this to New York!

        On Aug 15, 2010, at 11:05 PM, David C. Crosthwait wrote:

> Dennis,
> The presentation in St. Louis was recorded, but I have not see it.
> In terms of New York, where will you be this coming Tuesday? At 30  
Rock?

        I answer:

    Yes, I'm at 30 Rock Tuesday morning . . . . EARLY Tuesday morning.  
I'm usually done for the day by 11:00am.

            Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
                          NBC Today Show, New York

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 05:44:06 -0700
From: Ted Langdell <ted at quadvideotapegroup.com>
To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Early Quad Color--"AMIA's The Reel Thing"
    Sessions    were videotaped.
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Gary was one of the people cam-cording the segments.

AMIA seems to have plans to make them available?and had a notice in  
the handout advising to the effect that "your attendance is your  
permission for us to show you on camera, use your questions, etc.) I  
don't know when or by what means, but can ask.

At least 3? cameras were in use... meaning someone has to edit.

Dennis, can we volunteer you?  =:O) (FCP with Multiclip would be handy)

Ted

On Aug 15, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Dennis Degan wrote:

>
>     I appreciate that, but I was thinking more of the live  
> presentations themselves by the participants.  I was wondering if a  
> camera was present with podium audio to capture the technical  
> discussions on how the restorations were done, etc.
>     David, you've got to bring this to New York!
>
>             Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
>                           NBC Today Show, New York

Ted Langdell
Secretary

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:34:09 -0400
From: "Gary Adams" <garyada at ix.netcom.com>
To: "'Quad List'" <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Early Quad Color--"AMIA's The Reel Thing"
    Sessions    were videotaped.
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Michael Friend of Sony edits the material and keeps it for the permanent
record.  I have been volunteering shooting the presenters and audience.  I
know the power points and screen images are recorded as well but I don't
think they will be widely available due to copyrights and such.  There
really is some great information that probably will be available at some
point.  

It was interesting all the Carson Tonight Shows starting about the 1" days
are all digitally on line as a commercial venture.  I think the tapes were
in various formats and maybe mostly Betacam SP.  The complete shows were
ingested with exact text from the dialog which is quickly searchable.
Access to this database is controlled and is primarily used  to sell clips
and segments for commercial purposes.  They demonstrated live off the web
how the search engine worked.  They had the audience offer some key words
which worked really nice.  I didn't want to speak from my position, but I
would have offered keywords like "Ed Ames" and "Hatchet".  This is not news
to anyone but when they were asked about the Quad tapes, they pointed out
the tape was reused often to keep the costs down so only special segments
were saved by Carson during that era. But I know members in this group are
much more knowledgeable about this.  

I am interested in what most of you think about the possibility of
non-contact recovery of Quad information.  Just how difficult will this be?

Gary

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[mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com] On Behalf Of Ted Langdell
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:44 AM
To: Quad List
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Early Quad Color--"AMIA's The Reel Thing" Sessions
were videotaped.

Gary was one of the people cam-cording the segments.

AMIA seems to have plans to make them available-and had a notice in  
the handout advising to the effect that "your attendance is your  
permission for us to show you on camera, use your questions, etc.) I  
don't know when or by what means, but can ask.

At least 3? cameras were in use... meaning someone has to edit.

Dennis, can we volunteer you?  =:O) (FCP with Multiclip would be handy)

Ted

On Aug 15, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Dennis Degan wrote:

>
>     I appreciate that, but I was thinking more of the live  
> presentations themselves by the participants.  I was wondering if a  
> camera was present with podium audio to capture the technical  
> discussions on how the restorations were done, etc.
>     David, you've got to bring this to New York!
>
>             Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
>                           NBC Today Show, New York

Ted Langdell
Secretary

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:36:46 -0400
From: Dennis Degan <DennyD1 at verizon.net>
To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Early Quad Color--"AMIA's The Reel Thing"
    Sessions    were videotaped.
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        On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:

> At least 3? cameras were in use... meaning someone has to edit.
> Dennis, can we volunteer you?  =:O) (FCP with Multiclip would be  
handy)

        I say:

    Yeah, I could do that.  I have Avid now too.  ;)

            Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
                          NBC Today Show, New York

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