[QuadList] ACR-25/TCR-100 side by side (Was Ampex Models)

Ted Langdell ted at quadvideotapegroup.com
Tue Mar 1 15:14:59 CST 2011


Hi, David and Gary

Would you be willing to do something if I could talk NAB into  
providing space?

Likely not this year, since NAB's less than a month and a half away...  
but next year?

Ted

On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:49 PM, David Crosthwait wrote:

> Well,
>
> Paul Beck has a complete TCR and I have two ACRs in storage (way in  
> the back). It could happen...but don't hold your breath! I also have  
> a top ACR maintenance engineer on standby in Arizona to bribe for  
> help.
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Gary Adams wrote:
>
>> It was a financial compromise.  We probably saved $100K or more on  
>> the purchase which is significant for small market facilities.   
>> When we came up with the multiple 10 second thing, we would simply  
>> edit the two together using the built in (optional) editor.  Was  
>> automatic and fast.  Not elegant but got us by.
>>
>> I was always able to convince the technical staff it would be  
>> easier to repair the TCR since a “tractor mechanic” could probably  
>> figure most of the mechanics out.  And I didn’t mean that in a  
>> negative way.  The mechanics were simple and the 7 steps to thread  
>> and unthread were all visible during the process.  As much as I  
>> would have wanted the ACR, I was able to make the TCR very  
>> reliable.  We should set the ACR and TCR up together for a  
>> demonstration.  It would not be a cheap investment.  It would be  
>> nice to see once again before some of us (included) are gone.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> From: quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com [mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Trevor Brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:34 PM
>> To: 'Quad List'
>> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Ampex Models
>>
>> I too remember the TC100 rules short carts only first or last in  
>> the break
>> We also had special half park switches on our TCR100’s to arrest  
>> the thread cycle to help with short carts
>> But 10” would still not have been possible other than as stated  
>> beginning or end of break
>>
>> TrevorB
>> UK Member
>>
>>
>> From: quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com [mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Thomas, Stephen D
>> Sent: 01 March 2011 18:24
>> To: Quad List
>> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Ampex Models
>>
>> I remember having to explain to a director in 1985 why the 10  
>> second ID had to be at the end of a multi-spot break when played on  
>> an RCA TCR-100.  This wouldn’t have been an issue with the Ampex ACR.
>>
>> In college in 1975, our local studio became the proud owner of our  
>> first quad.  It was a VR-1000B purchased from a military surplus  
>> warehouse.  I still have the original instruction manual.  I think  
>> the studio lights dimmed a little when the thing was first fired up  
>> in the morning.  Many months were spent replacing tubes, obtaining  
>> heads and adjusting tension before an acceptable monochrome picture  
>> was achieved.  It was quite an education for this student (who grew  
>> up on 1” helical and then ¾” U-matic VTRs) to learn about head  
>> guides, tip penetration, Intersync and proc amps.
>>
>> Although I haven’t been physically close to a quad since my current  
>> station gave away our last VR-2000 about 15 years ago, I have a  
>> great respect for all who worked on them and kept them running for  
>> the benefit of future generations.   Thank you, group members, who  
>> keep history alive.
>>
>> STEVE THOMAS
>> SENIOR EDITOR and TECHNICAL DIRECTOR
>> 248.351.7905
>> e-mail:  sdthomas at cbs.com
>>
>> "If your grammar is incorrect, then you’re in need of help"
>> From: quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com [mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of David Crosthwait
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:40 PM
>> To: garyada at ix.netcom.com; Quad List
>> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Ampex Models
>>
>> In my opinion, there is nothing quite impressive than watching a  
>> station break with back-to-back 10 second promos being played on A,  
>> then B playing while A ejects, threads up, and almost immediately  
>> plays A again when B is done, etc. This theoretically can occur to  
>> a carousel full (24) of 10 second spots if the ACR is told to do  
>> so. Of course, in this mode, the spots have to be rewound or cued  
>> up later, but that's not a problem. It is a flawless transition  
>> from deck A to B and back to A again etc.
>>
>>
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Ted Langdell
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