[QuadList] ACR-25/TCR-100 side by side (Was Ampex Models)

Tue Mar 1 16:03:09 CST 2011

I would agree, of course.  Maybe this is something we should not lose sight
of in the near future though.  I would be a bit worried about the money and
time, but certainly when I am retired there would be more of that time thing
and less of that money thing.

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[mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com] On Behalf Of David
Crosthwait
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 4:45 PM
To: Quad List
Subject: Re: [QuadList] ACR-25/TCR-100 side by side (Was Ampex Models)

Ted,

Honestly, I don't think they would want to do it and I don't think we should
unless there is some anniversary to commemorate. Maybe 2016, 60 years of
videotape? This effort would take almost as much cost and luck as the TRT 1
would, when you consider two machines, the transportation, the power, the
security on site, and all of us taking about 30 days off of work and away
from our families. And that's just the weeks surrounding NAB. 

A lot of pizza and a lot of beer (for those who like beer).

So, I am for it and the demonstration. But, it will take massive planning
for an NAB in my opinion. And, let's not forget that the TCR is in Boston,
and not in our control.

David

On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Ted Langdell wrote:

Hi, David and Gary

Would you be willing to do something if I could talk NAB into providing
space?

Likely not this year, since NAB's less than a month and a half away... but
next year?

Ted

On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:49 PM, David Crosthwait wrote:

Well,

Paul Beck has a complete TCR and I have two ACRs in storage (way in the
back). It could happen...but don't hold your breath! I also have a top ACR
maintenance engineer on standby in Arizona to bribe for help.

David

On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Gary Adams wrote:

It was a financial compromise.  We probably saved $100K or more on the
purchase which is significant for small market facilities.  When we came up
with the multiple 10 second thing, we would simply edit the two together
using the built in (optional) editor.  Was automatic and fast.  Not elegant
but got us by. 

I was always able to convince the technical staff it would be easier to
repair the TCR since a “tractor mechanic” could probably figure most of the
mechanics out.  And I didn’t mean that in a negative way.  The mechanics
were simple and the 7 steps to thread and unthread were all visible during
the process.  As much as I would have wanted the ACR, I was able to make the
TCR very reliable.  We should set the ACR and TCR up together for a
demonstration.  It would not be a cheap investment.  It would be nice to see
once again before some of us (included) are gone.

Gary

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[mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com] On Behalf Of Trevor Brown
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:34 PM
To: 'Quad List'
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Ampex Models

I too remember the TC100 rules short carts only first or last in the break

We also had special half park switches on our TCR100’s to arrest the thread
cycle to help with short carts

But 10” would still not have been possible other than as stated beginning or
end of break

TrevorB

UK Member

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[mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com] On Behalf Of Thomas,
Stephen D
Sent: 01 March 2011 18:24
To: Quad List
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Ampex Models

I remember having to explain to a director in 1985 why the 10 second ID had
to be at the end of a multi-spot break when played on an RCA TCR-100.  This
wouldn’t have been an issue with the Ampex ACR.

In college in 1975, our local studio became the proud owner of our first
quad.  It was a VR-1000B purchased from a military surplus warehouse.  I
still have the original instruction manual.  I think the studio lights
dimmed a little when the thing was first fired up in the morning.  Many
months were spent replacing tubes, obtaining heads and adjusting tension
before an acceptable monochrome picture was achieved.  It was quite an
education for this student (who grew up on 1” helical and then ¾” U-matic
VTRs) to learn about head guides, tip penetration, Intersync and proc amps. 

Although I haven’t been physically close to a quad since my current station
gave away our last VR-2000 about 15 years ago, I have a great respect for
all who worked on them and kept them running for the benefit of future
generations.   Thank you, group members, who keep history alive.

STEVE THOMAS

SENIOR EDITOR and TECHNICAL DIRECTOR

248.351.7905

e-mail:  sdthomas at cbs.com

"If your grammar is incorrect, then you’re in need of help"

  _____  

From: quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com] On Behalf Of David
Crosthwait
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:40 PM
To: garyada at ix.netcom.com; Quad List
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Ampex Models

In my opinion, there is nothing quite impressive than watching a station
break with back-to-back 10 second promos being played on A, then B playing
while A ejects, threads up, and almost immediately plays A again when B is
done, etc. This theoretically can occur to a carousel full (24) of 10 second
spots if the ACR is told to do so. Of course, in this mode, the spots have
to be rewound or cued up later, but that's not a problem. It is a flawless
transition from deck A to B and back to A again etc.

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