[QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA

[Bill Carpenter]

Hi Folks,

The quad patent package was well controlled and also applied to helicals and continued through the mid 80's to the best of my knowledge. We made money on everybody that made a Quad and later a helical video recorder in the free world. 
I have seen the product shipment reports for most manufacturers. 
The Ginsberg patent related to the FM recording system and was the basis of the package.

Bye for now, Bill & Ginger (whoof...whoof)

--- On Mon, 3/21/11, Don Norwood <dwnorwood at embarqmail.com> wrote:

From: Don Norwood <dwnorwood at embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA
To: "Quad List" <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:19 AM



 
 

Hi Ted:
 
By the time Merlin got thru with the machine, it had an Ampex headwheel, 
Ampex audio heads and an Ampex pinch roller.  Whether those were part of 
the original Shibaden design I do not know.  Ken Zin can probably tell 
us.
 
In the "fine print" of the question Chris originally asked, he did say only 
original manufacturers that did not rely on the major parts of other 
manufacturers.  Some of these machines, like the Visual/Allen, would not 
exist without the "big guy's" parts.  On the other hand, machines like the 
Bosch are clearly original.  I think the intention was to explore 
how many companies actually made quads from top to bottom.  Otherwise, I 
could be a "manufacturer" since I've built and sold machines made out of a 
variety of parts. 
 
Don 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Ted Langdell 
  To: Ted Langdell 
  Cc: Quad List 
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:15 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady 
  Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA
  

  Hi, Bill, 
  
Sorry if the below sound a little sharp in reply... Not much 
  sleep. Too much going on.
  

  The Shibaden catalog pictures and text would be of great interest. 
   If you find it again, please try to scan and post.
  

  Anyone else have some Shibaden info?
  

  Ted
  

  
  On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:

  
    
    The Shibaden SV-7000 Quad used in the Merlin duplicating system 
    doesn't look like any RCA I've seen... 
    

    See the deck and some historic pictures at http://www.labguysworld.com/Merlin_ME68.htm
    

    Don Norwood posted two different brochures for the system on June 3, 
    2009 (Re: [QuadList] 
    Fwd: Merlinized Shibaden for Vidtronics' dub 
    system(wasToshiba))
    

    Ted
    


    
    On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:13 AM, <bill.spencer at northstarstudios.tv> 
    <bill.spencer at northstarstudios.tv> 
    wrote:

    
      
      
      I 
      used to have a Shibaden catalog from the 70s that showed their quads and 
      they looked to be RCA clones if not rebadged RCA. 
       
      
      Bill 
      Spencer 
      NorthStar 
      Studios, Inc. 
      3201 
      Dickerson Pike 
      Nashville, 
      TN 37207 
      (615) 
      650-6610 
      CP 
      (615) 445-5616 
       
      
      
      From: quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com 
      [mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com] On Behalf Of Ted 
      Langdell
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:28 
      AM
To: Quad 
      List
Subject: Re: 
      [QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by Ampex 
      orRCA 
       
      
      2" 
      Quads: 
      
       
      
      Bosch              (Germany) 
      
      Visual/Allen    (Bosch transport and heads 
      from Germany w/Visual/Allen Electronics from US) 
      
      Shibaden                     (Japan) 
      
      TAMCO                      (Japanese partnership btw. 
      Ampex and Toshiba making Ampex designed machines in 
      Japan) 
      
       
      
      1" 
      Quad: 
      
                  Asaka (Japan) Company also known 
      as Asaka/ShibaSoku 
      
       
      
      Sony, 
      NHK made 2" Quad prototypes in Japan. 
      
       
      
      I 
      suspect there are more to be found.  The hunt continues!  (We 
      need some Japanese QuadList members!) 
      
       
      
      Ted 
       
      
      
      On 
      Mar 21, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Chill315 at aol.com wrote: 
      

 
      
      
      We 
      all know the Ampex and RCA machines.  A number of us have seen other 
      machines in use.  So the question of the day 
      is. 
      
       
      
      What 
      other manufactures built quad machine?  
      
       
      
      The 
      answer can not be a refurbished machine that was built on someone else's 
      platform.  I know of two of the manufactures.  I do not 
      know a third one but am aware of the machine.  There may be 
      more. 
       
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