[QuadList] Reviving the Lenticular Kinescope Thread

[Ted Langdell]

Is anyone on the list aware of any Quad videotape of the below-mentioned program?

This link indcates the program aired on January 19, 1957, three days after NBC was reported to have begun using Ampex VRX-1000s for Time Zone Delay in Burbank.

http://www.amazon.com/Saturday-Color-Carnival-airdate-January/dp/B005C1DE1Y

Ted

Ted Langdell
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On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Jeffrey J Martin wrote:

> 
> That clip is from Kovacs' episode of "Saturday Color Carnival," January 1957. The whole show is included in the recent Kovacs DVD set. Never having seen a lenticular kine, I can't say by looking at it whether it's an actual color kine or not. But UCLA Film & Television Archive holds what it describes as a 16mm color kine of the show, which may be the source. Info pasted below.
> 
> I'd love to see this thread revived. If Kodacolor can be digitized, digitizing a lenticular kine should be feasible, too.
> 
> Jeff Martin
> Chicago, IL
> 
> 
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> Location:	 Non-circulating SRLF archival copy
> Inventory Number:	 T3167
> Collection:	 TV Television Collection
> Format:	 1 reel of 1 (29 min., 52 sec.) (ca. 1200 ft.) : opt sd., col. ; 16 mm. safety print.
> Notes:	Reserved for preservation.
> NOTES: "F2110." Copy added from inventory record without viewing or inspection. LOCATION: A2-74-3.
> Added copy, November 18, 1987, my; rev. April 15, 2005, my; rev. March 9, 2011, my.
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> From: Ted Langdell <ted at quadvideotapegroup.com>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:15:46 -0800
> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Reviving the Lenticular Kinescope Thread
> Hi, Richard,
> 
> Would be interested in learning more about your research that tells you that the clip is NOT a kinescope, particularly an NBC/Kodak lenticular kinescope
> 
> What did you learn about that clip?
> 
> Looking more closely at the YouTube clip there are videotape dropouts observable, and no indication of film dirt or gate weave or vertical movement that can't be attributed to camera movement.
> 
> Also, it would appear that NBC Burbank had Ampex VR-1000X machines in hand by Dec. 14, 1956 and had begun Time Zone Delay by Jan. 15, 1957.  
> 
> According to television historian Albert Abramson, RCA demonstrated color using a Quad in August, 1957, using what appeared to Charles Ginsburg to be parts of the third VRX-1000 NBC had received.
> 
> For latecomers to the thread:
> 
> Learn more on the NBC/Kodak Lenticular Kinescope process and Quad Videotape introduction timeline here:
> 
> The History of Television, 1942 to 2000
>  By Albert Abramson
> Page 74
> 
> http://books.google.com/books?id=TOMOmmrvwCcC&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=NBC+Lenticular+Color+kinescope&source=bl&ots=WvBHH8p3rs&sig=1jIZsDs5O6EE4-AxIlk5kfHY0xs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fJ7BUrDyGIX6oAS8loHwBA&ved=0CHYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=NBC%20Lenticular%20Color%20kinescope&f=false
> 
> Also the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers has many references:
> https://www.smpte.org/s?as_q=Lenticular%20Kinescope
> 
> SMPTE Membership required to view most at no additional charge. Items can be purchased.
> 
> Having read through a number of the items, it's quite a fascinating system.
> 
> Ted
> 
> Ted Langdell
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> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Richard Wirth wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I'm working on a television history article where I'd like to show an example of Lenticular Color Kinescope.
>> 
>> I thought I had one in the form of an Ernie Kovacs video available on a couple of You Tube channels 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEBg6ansaJA
>> 
>> But research (via this group and other sources) tell me that information is incorrect.
>> 
>> Does anyone know of any video on line that is an actual example of the NBC Lenticular Color Film Process?
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