[QuadList] Shadinq
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chill315 at aol.com
Sat Sep 28 15:03:38 CDT 2013
Shading comes from the very early days of television. Long before my time.
The Iconoscope tube was plagued with video levels for the same light values being different. And I was told that this would change with exposure. (Can someone confirm that?). Any how, the video operator was required to add combinations of horizontal and vertical sawtooth and parabola signals to the video signal. It would correct the signal back to flat and uniform across the picture.
The before looked like a shade was on the picture.
Later tubes required these signals to correct for the same type of errors but they did not dynamically change.
Today it is the video operator that makes the cameras look pretty. But the old term of "shading" is still used to describe the job.
Chris Hill
On Sep 28, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Shai Drori <srdbx at netvision.net.il> wrote:
>
> Can someone explain "Shading"? I probably know the Hebrew version of the job but can't make the connection.
> Shai
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>> Hi Ted,
>> Count me in if you are going to Lunch or Dinner in San Jose, in Nov.
>> I will be available all except the 2nd Friday, of the month, when I have a BOD meeting @ the Lake.
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>> ?
>> Bye for now, love to all, Bill & Gewyn & Ginger (whoof...whoof)
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>> Subject: [QuadList] At least two of our QuadList members are shading football games tonight--
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>> At the San Jose State game tonight at 6PM Pacific on ESPN's Friday Night Football, Park Seward has a challenge:
>>
>> Existing sunlight/skylight, 3200K lamps on the near side of the field, something yellower on the far side, not enough light after sunset..
>>>
>>> So they hired MUSCO to bring in one (maybe more) crane-mounted Musco lights... which are 5600K. ?They're trying for 100 footcandles on the field. ?Should be "colorful" in more ways than one.
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>>> The game has ten cameras. Park is shading five, and his #2 has the other five.
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>> Tim Soffel is also shading tonight... ?
>>
>> University of Nevada Reno Wolf Pack home game that is played tonight but airs on CBS Sports Network tomorrow (Saturday) night at 5pm Pacific. ?Tim's working with with V1 Rich Smith.
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>> And I'd guess that Guy Spiller is likely doing a game somewhere for ESPN this weekend.
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>> Park is back in San Jose in November, and we're working on a QuadList member get-together either Wednesday, Nov. 20 after he flies in, or on Thursday, Nov. 21 after the truck is set up.
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>> No Quads on the truck... just a lot of disc drives.
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>> Ted
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>> Add a third guy--Eric Address is the V-1 (and only) working on my truck, NEP SS-7, tonight at Delaware for Comcast.
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>> At the San Jose State game tonight at 6PM Pacific on ESPN's Friday Night Football, Park Seward has a challenge:
>>
>> Existing sunlight/skylight, 3200K lamps on the near side of the field, something yellower on the far side, not enough light after sunset..
>>
>> So they hired MUSCO to bring in one (maybe more) crane-mounted Musco lights... which are 5600K. They're trying for 100 footcandles on the field. Should be "colorful" in more ways than one.
>>
>> The game has ten cameras. Park is shading five, and his #2 has the other five.
>>
>> Tim Soffel is also shading tonight...
>>
>> University of Nevada Reno Wolf Pack home game that is played tonight but airs on CBS Sports Network tomorrow (Saturday) night at 5pm Pacific. Tim's working with with V1 Rich Smith.
>>
>> And I'd guess that Guy Spiller is likely doing a game somewhere for ESPN this weekend.
>>
>> Park is back in San Jose in November, and we're working on a QuadList member get-together either Wednesday, Nov. 20 after he flies in, or on Thursday, Nov. 21 after the truck is set up.
>>
>> No Quads on the truck... just a lot of disc drives.
>>
>> Ted
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>>> ?On?27?September?2013?at?23:43?Ted?Langdell?<ted at quadvideotapegroup.com>?wrote:
>>> ?
>>> ?
>>> ?
>>> ?At?the?San?Jose?State?game?tonight?at?6PM?Pacific?on?ESPN's?Friday?Night?Football,?Park?Seward?has?a?challenge:
>>> ?
>>> ?Existing?sunlight/skylight,?3200K?lamps?on?the?near?side?of?the?field,?something?yellower?on?the?far?side,?not?enough?light?after?sunset..
>>> ?
>>> ?So?they?hired?MUSCO?to?bring?in?one?(maybe?more)?crane-mounted?Musco?lights...?which?are?5600K.??They're?trying?for?100?footcandles?on?the?field.??Should?be?"colorful"?in?more?ways?than?one.
>> Always fun ... I racked (shaded in the US) a rugby league game a couple
>> of weeks ago, where we were dealing with roughly a 5 stop swing between
>> the bright and dark areas of the stadium. The norm for games such as
>> that is to run 14 cameras (with two of those hand held and on radio
>> links) on the actual game and three in the studio.
>
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