[QuadList] Searching for SMPTE standard for Ampex Type A format video recording
David Crosthwait
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Tue Dec 2 11:43:52 CST 2014
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Specifications for the type A format can be found in the SMPTE Journal, Vol. 86, pp. 952-957. Additionally, format information is contained in the following American National Standards and two SMPTE recommended practices:
V 16.37
V 16.38
V 16.39
V 16.40
The article indicates that the above material was being editorially modified and will once again be reviewed. Mind you that this may have never happened when type C was soon to be agreed upon.
The first working group for the development of type A was submitted drafts in August of 1975 and were circulated to the main committee in March of 1977.
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On Dec 2, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Don Norwood via QuadList wrote:
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> From: "Don Norwood" <quadlist at digitrakcom.com>
> Date: December 2, 2014 9:25:39 AM PST
> To: "Ted Langdell" <ted at quadvideotapegroup.com>, "Quad List" <QuadList at quadvideotapegroup.com>
> Subject: Re: Searching for SMPTE standard for Ampex Type A format video recording
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> Hi Ted:
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> We have Ampex-published track and drum specs for the Type-A NTSC machines if you need a copy of that. Remember that 50Hz versions will be different. Also, while track geometry was the same, if you are concerned with implementations of the format prior to the VPR-7900, then there are also different carrier frequencies and different control track schemes.
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> I’ve searched before for references to a SMPTE specification and haven’t found it. Have you asked Bill Carpenter about this? I’d also check with John Turner to see what he may know about it.
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> Don
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> From: Ted Langdell
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 9:54 PM
> To: Quad List
> Cc: Ted Langdell
> Subject: Searching for SMPTE standard for Ampex Type A format video recording
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> Happy December 1 (as opposed to other labels for the day)
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> The 1960's era Ampex 1" industrial/educational videotape format that spawned the VR-5xxx, 6xxx and 7xxx VTRs is often referred to as "Type A" or "SMPTE Type A" with the assertion that it became a SMPTE Standardized format at some point.
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> Searching does not turn up any references to a SMPTE Standard that seems to apply, although one can find the SMPTE Type C helical scan standard without too much difficulty:
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> http://standards.smpte.org/gca?gca=smptes%3Bst-20-2003%2F1%2Fpart1&gca=smptes%3Bst-19-2003%2F1%2Fpart1&gca=smptes%3Bst-18-2003%2F1%2Fpart1&allch=&submit=Go
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> and similarly, for Type-B (the Bosch segmented 1" helical format)
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> Does anyone on the list know whether there was an actual SMPTE Standard adopted (or even proposed) for this legacy Ampex format, and if so, what the Standard Number is?
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> For Example:
> ST 19:2003
> For Television Analog Recording — 1-in Type C — Records
> Scope
> This standard specifies the dimensions and location of recorded video, audio, and tracking-control records for 1-in type C helical-scan television analog recorders operating in the 525/60 monochrome or NTSC color systems.
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> Directions to applicable standards or proposed standards, (or such information for "Type A" as outlined in the three Type-C documents linked to) would be most appreciated.
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> Cheers and thanks,
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> Ted
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> Ted Langdell
> Secretary
> Quad Videotape Group
> e-mail: ted at quadvideotapegroup.com
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