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<div> The Super 8mm projectors were used exclusively at that time (1985) for rolling PSAs when "Fred" lived up to his nickname. I suspect they may have been leftover machines from the pre-ENG news gathering days.</div>
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<div> As for optical vs. magnetic, I would go with magnetic, as I don't recall seeing the undulating white soundtrack line on the film stock that the 16mm stock had.</div>
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<div>Very surprising. Thanks for the details. Sounds like it worked OK when needed. Was the system used for programming or news footage... or just the PSA's.</div>
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<div>Do you remember whether the sound was optical or magnetic?</div>
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<div>I'm thinking magnetic.</div>
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<div>Partial interest as I rep a German HD 8/S8 transfer system... and looking back makes me truly appreciate where we are today.</div>
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<div>Now back to figuring out where to stay <I>near</I> but not <I>in</I> lower Manhattan tomorrow and Friday night... or longer : ) I'm thinking in Secaucus or elsewhere in the Meadowlands. Suggestions welcome. Off list replies, please to <A href="mailto:ted@flashscan8.us">ted@flashscan8.us</A>.</div>
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<div>Now back to our regularly scheduled TCR-100 thread...</div>
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<div>On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:51 PM, <A href="mailto:KYLEBOOK@aol.com">KYLEBOOK@aol.com</A> wrote:</div>
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<div>To be specific, these were Super 8 projectors. In addition to the standard 16MM RCA projectors, WGGB's telecine area had these 3 side-mounted (onto poles) Bell & Howell Super 8 projectors. Physically, they were slightly larger than a first-aid kit, with a feeder reel on top, take up reel on the bottom, and a door on the front to access the threading area, focus knobs & lens. Each of the machines had its own CCU, located next to the master control switcher, and its own telecine island & mirrors. The quality was not nearly as good as the 16MM, with rather saturated chroma levels & orangey flesh tones that the CCU couldn't completely eliminate.</div>
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<div>The PSAs themselves were super 8mm films provided by state & federal government agencies, generally 1-2 minutes, on subjects like drunk driving, poison control, fire prevention, etc.</div>
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<div>The operative attitude was "Well, it's better than black or an ID slide".</div>
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<div>In the 6 months I worked at Channel 40 as tape op in 1985, I only participated in one outright TCR crash that forced us to use the Super 8 projectors. Murphy's Law being what it is, the TCR went down (due to a faulty tractor belt) an hour after the 11 O'Clock news ended, and another hour before sign-off, after the on-duty engineer had left for the night. The station was running a syndicated show called "Tales From The Darkside", followed by a rerun of the old NBC show "Real People", and a 15-minute late newscast from the ABC Network, taped at 11 O'Clock (on the station's lone 1" machine, a Sony BVH-2500). There was only 1 paid spot (our sign on & sign offs were always preceded by a spot for a local discount retail store) the rest of the night, so the engineer said he'd be in before sign-on, so the rest of night was spent scrambling to grab as many Super 8 PSAs, and stringing them as fast as possible.</div>
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<div>Such is life in the small markets...</div>
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<div>On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:37 PM, <A href="mailto:KYLEBOOK@aol.com">KYLEBOOK@aol.com</A> wrote:</div>
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