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<div>You just rang another bell, I noticed it is almost impossible to edit music together when it is a continuous piece, there is always a problem. I just told the editor to lay down the complete music track then insert the video on top of it. Sounds too simple but it seemed to work.</div>
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From: Trevor Brown <videovault@sky.com><br>
To: 'Quad List' <quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com><br>
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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I have just watched the demo of the 600 and light pen on YouTube</SPAN></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The You Tube clip shows the decision process, did someone then have to razor the tape to match the list, with sound edits half a second late?</SPAN></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I think if the demo had been scene stitching in a soap it might be more believable</SPAN></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I have access to a streamer without time limits of You Tube at <A href="http://www.batc.tv/" target=_blank>www.batc.tv</A></SPAN></div>
<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">It a Ham radio/TV site but we could section of part for clips like this if the You Tube time limit is a problem</SPAN></div>
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From: Don Norwood <<A href="mailto:dwnorwood@embarqmail.com">dwnorwood@embarqmail.com</A>><br>
To: Quad List <<A href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>><br>
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