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<div>Hi Gary,</div>


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<div>Actualy, I think if you had the oxide side of the tape on the heads, the heads would be completely slanted in the opposite angle from the recorded tracks.&nbsp; With the back of the tape on the heads, we didn't get enough signal to make any video at all.</div>


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<div>You just rang another bell.&nbsp; Has anyone run into the Ampex High Speed Dubber?? I only saw one once at EUE in New York, briefly.&nbsp; I understand an AVR-1 was needed to make a mirror image tape first, then the dubs were made&nbsp;by putting the new mirror tape against the blank and some kind of field was shot thru them and the video was recorded on it.</div>


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<div>George Keller<br>
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To: 'Quad List' &lt;quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com&gt;<br>
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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Because the quad tracks were mostly (not completely) perpendicular to the tape, backwards got some picture upside down and backwards.&nbsp; You were still reading the oxide side.&nbsp; This put the control track where the audio heads expected audio so you hear control track.&nbsp; Capstan would free run without control track.&nbsp; Some clever people put 240hz tone on the audio track allowing the capstan to be a bit more stable as a joke. &nbsp;I think newer machines did not like this too much but I’ll bet the AVR1 could play it and probably turn the picture back up &nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">&nbsp; (just kidding).&nbsp; &nbsp;I think on a 1” the tracks would never line up since they were so slanted to the tape.&nbsp; So the heads would read across the track rather than with the track.&nbsp; </SPAN></div>


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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Gary</SPAN></div>


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<B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:04 PM<br>
<B>To:</B> <A __removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A><br>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [QuadList] Little more fun</SPAN></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Now that you mention it I do remember at some time having a tape upside down on a machine, it did come out upsidedown, but bad picture and lock up with a funny tone from the CTL coming out of the audio. BUt this was with the oxide side facing the tape.</SPAN></div>
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From: Joe Owens &lt;<A __removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:jpo@prestodigital.ca">jpo@prestodigital.ca</A>&gt;<br>
To: Quad List &lt;<A __removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 5:18 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [QuadList] Little more fun</SPAN></div>


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