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color=#0000ff size=2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=558220122-09032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>It was my understanding at the time (70's) that the "high
speed dubs" were first recorded on a special "master" machine (AVR-1?) that was
specially manufactured to record a mirror image onto the master tape. This
special machine was identical in all respects to a standard machine, except that
it was a mechanical mirror (head rotated backwards, tape ran backwards, I am not
sure). But the net result was that it recorded a tape that was a mirror
image of a normal recording.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=558220122-09032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=558220122-09032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>This mirrored master tape was then copied as stated below
by bringing the master and a blank tape into contact and passing them through a
magnetic field.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=558220122-09032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=558220122-09032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>These high speed dubs were easy to spot because they had a
very low RF level. Some machines (VR-2000's) would not play them, but
an AVR-1 would usually get them to play without
problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=558220122-09032010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Steve Walton</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com
[mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>georgenann@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:45
PM<BR><B>To:</B> garyada@ix.netcom.com;
quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [QuadList] Little more
fun<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Gary,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Actualy, I think if you had the oxide side of the tape on the heads, the
heads would be completely slanted in the opposite angle from the recorded
tracks. With the back of the tape on the heads, we didn't get enough
signal to make any video at all.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You just rang another bell. Has anyone run into the Ampex High Speed
Dubber?? I only saw one once at EUE in New York, briefly. I understand an
AVR-1 was needed to make a mirror image tape first, then the dubs were
made by putting the new mirror tape against the blank and some kind of
field was shot thru them and the video was recorded on it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>George Keller<BR><BR></DIV>
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Message-----<BR>From: Gary Adams <adam7889@bellsouth.net><BR>To: 'Quad
List' <quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com><BR>Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2010 4:32
pm<BR>Subject: Re: [QuadList] Little more fun<BR><BR>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Because
the quad tracks were mostly (not completely) perpendicular to the tape,
backwards got some picture upside down and backwards. You were still
reading the oxide side. This put the control track where the audio heads
expected audio so you hear control track. Capstan would free run without
control track. Some clever people put 240hz tone on the audio track
allowing the capstan to be a bit more stable as a joke. I think newer
machines did not like this too much but I’ll bet the AVR1 could play it and
probably turn the picture back up </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">
(just kidding). I think on a 1” the tracks would never line up since
they were so slanted to the tape. So the heads would read across the track
rather than with the track. </SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Gary</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
__removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>
[<A
__removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com?">mailto:quadlist-bounces@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B><A
__removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:georgenann@aol.com">georgenann@aol.com</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, March 09, 2010 4:04 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
__removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [QuadList] Little more fun</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hi
Joe,</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">This
was after FF to the TU reel then puting it on the supply side so it is
looking at the back of the tape, we were getting a "Nil heard signal" from the
tape.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Now
that you mention it I do remember at some time having a tape upside down on a
machine, it did come out upsidedown, but bad picture and lock up with a funny
tone from the CTL coming out of the audio. BUt this was with the oxide side
facing the tape.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Mny
Tnx,</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">George
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<DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Joe Owens <<A
__removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:jpo@prestodigital.ca">jpo@prestodigital.ca</A>><BR>To:
Quad List <<A
__removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com">quadlist@quadvideotapegroup.com</A>><BR>Sent:
Mon, Mar 8, 2010 5:18 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [QuadList] Little more fun</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">[Flipping
the tape over takeup/supply] On some machines, the video would play upside down
and in reverse, but no audio, obviously.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">On
6-Mar-10, at 11:49 AM, <A
__removedLink__1969561601__href="mailto:georgenann@aol.com">georgenann@aol.com</A>
wrote:</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=apple-style-span><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I think this would work
on the 1" machines also, but I never tried it.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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Owens</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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