[QuadList] Assemble edits vs Insert edits (wasOMG!!!!)

[dcfwtx at aol.com]

George and all,


Depending on the nature of the edit session and the time factor (how close to air time), edit sessions were insert (on time-code black tapes as NBC used to call it) or assemble. For example, in the late 70's, I worked (recorded and then edited) a load of NBC game shows (Hollywood Squares, Password Plus, Card Sharks, etc.) all on 2". If the show was a total rebuild (in the case of severe show disruptions due to gaming problems, other production issues, or technical glitches-rare in Burbank), the session would be built on time-code black tapes as an insert session. This was usually in edit two (TR 70B's with the RCA/EECO single event edit controller) or in edit three (TR 70C's with the RCA/EECO single event edit controller). Both rooms had a GVG 1600 switcher and access to an HS 200. If it was a simple pull up session, assemble edits were the fastest way to get the show done. Simply one copy (two were made at show time) was added/pulled up to the other copy, thereby generating an edit master to time. All 2" stock as 3M 400 or 420. The edit master was dubbed to three other tapes when finished. The EM and a dub went to 30 Rock, the other two were for Burbank. Game shows were never a situation where it was close to air. They were taped 5 per day (with a meal break), several weeks in advance. On the other hand, The Tonight Show was rarely a rebuild as the turnaround was too close. It was either spliced or assembled edit (as in a pull up). The turnaround time was much more critical when the show was ninety minutes as opposed to the later sixty-minute shows (thanks to Johnny's contract modification in the early 80's). 


One cottage industry at Burbank was the creation of time-code black tapes (known as crystal black or black&coded tapes at some other facilities). Jake (at that time) would come in and load up every available 2" machine (there were about 40 in Burbank) and record time-code-black tapes all night (all six Ampex machines and all the TR 70's and 600's). That's all he did from about 11P to 7A. A lot of 3M 2" stock was consumed overnight, both new and low-pass. He did a great job in assessing the TCB's on hand and what was needed (30, 60, and 90 minute loads). 


The entire edit department in conjunction with zone delay and production VTRs was well organized at that time.


David Crosthwait
DC Video
www.dcvideo.com





-----Original Message-----
From: georgenann at aol.com
To: quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 8:16 am
Subject: [QuadList] OMG!!!!


Hey Guys,
 
Just received the following from Ted, regarding one of my boo boo's:
 

Hi, George, 



On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:30 PM, georgenann at aol.com wrote:


Also if I remember correctly, at least with the Ampex machines the cap actualy freeruns momentarily in an assemble edit.  Also I think this is the reason that at least at CBS insert edits were never used, always used insert edits.  I think this stigma has stuck around for some time, even though insert edits are now OK with the newer machines.
 


Did you mean to say "... at least at CBS assemble edits were never used," and "even though assemble edits are now OK with the newer machines"?


Ted
 
My computer put in the wrong word, it must have been confused.  Had I proof read that e-mail it should have said  "CBS ASSEMBLE EDITS WERE NEVER USED."
 
ALso there two "L's" in actually, I apologize for that one also.
 
Thanks to Ted and apologies if this caused loss of sleep or hypertension among the group.
 
73,
 
George Keller



 
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