[QuadList] The Beatles, Washington D.C. 1964

David Crosthwait david at dcvideo.com
Thu Nov 18 08:07:40 CST 2010


After reviewing a set of images found in a google search, it appears that the '64 Sullivan NYC studio shows were using Marconi Mark IV's if the caption dates are correct. Therefore, I am apparently wrong in stating that the Marconi's did not arrive till later.  I do recall that the '65 show was sharp as tack when compared to the Feb. '64 shows, and perhaps from that observation I made the incorrect assumption that the Marconi's were on that show only.

Yes, it would be nice to hear from someone who was there on site at that time to set the record straight.

David





On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:34 PM, David Crosthwait wrote:

> From the Sullivan series of transfers I've done over the years, the Marconi's did not get used till the later part of '64. The Beatles '65 show (the last B&W Sullivan) was on the Marconi's. The PC 60's came on the scene in the fall of '65, and they were soft (no image enhancer yet). I'd be curious to know if CBS ever had Marconi's in a remote truck. Perhaps not. I think CBS saw the Norelco color cameras coming by '64 and were saving money for the color upgrades in '65, but Sullivan was such a hot show that they got s studio installation of Marconi's. That's my guess.
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> Speaking of The Beatles and Sullivan, go out and acquire the latest Beatles on Sullivan DVD:
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> The Miami show has an improved transfer and image processing that we did for Sofa Entertainment (and shown at SAA in August and AMIA earlier this month). 
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> On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, C. Park Seward wrote:
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>> My guess is TK-30. CBS and Sullivan did use the Marconi's so it may be that camera.
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>> I bet Chuck could tell just by looking at the picture.
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>> Best,
>> Park
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>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:11 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
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>>> what do you it was shot with??
>>> don't see the "corners" of the image orthicon in any of the shots, nor any changes in sensitivity near the edges of the picture.  Which leads me to conclude that the video was probably cropped.
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>>> I've used I/Os with over 600 lines of resolution.  These pictures are softer than that.
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>>> That said, how nice to see the video!
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>>> -Tom
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>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:31 AM, <kylebook at aol.com> wrote:
>>> No issues with the video quality, considering what a massive upgrade this is from the kinescope copies that have been in circulation in the collector's circuit since the 80s.  The kines were missing most of "Twist & Shout" and "Long Tall Sally" entirely.
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>>> - Kyle  
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>>> From: couryhouse <couryhouse at aol.com>
>>> To: quadlist <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 12:44 am
>>> Subject: Re: [QuadList] The Beatles, Washington D.C. 1964
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>>> Indeed David! I enjoed it!  thanks   for the details!...    It is great just to have this! Thanks!
>>> Ed, 
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>>> I don't know who's truck it was. I have an email into Ron to find out if he knows. Also, I would presume that the VTR was in the truck, and not microwaved back to some record VTR in a station (as in WRC doing the pickup and feeding it back to their station). The video is not that sharp if I recall correctly, meaning it did not look like the higher quality TK 60's or Marconi's. But, if you are in any way a Beatles fan and can toleratse the audio problems, then you should be OK with the video quality as well, in my opinion. 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David C. Crosthwait <david at dcvideo.com>
>>> To: quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com
>>> Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 10:43 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [QuadList] The Beatles, Washington D.C. 1964
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>>> Ed, 
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>>> I don't know who's truck it was. I have an email into Ron to find out if he knows. Also, I would presume that the VTR was in the truck, and not microwaved back to some record VTR in a station (as in WRC doing the pickup and feeding it back to their station). The video is not that sharp if I recall correctly, meaning it did not look like the higher quality TK 60's or Marconi's. But, if you are in any way a Beatles fan and can toleratse the audio problems, then you should be OK with the video quality as well, in my opinion. 
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>>> David 
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>>> Quoting couryhouse at aol.com: 
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>>> > so David what cameras shot this? tk 11 type of things? was it > recoded to quad in remote trucks or???? 
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>>> > interested in the process... meanwhile I will enjoy the show! Thanks! 
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>>> > I am enjoying this video. 
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>>> > From: David Crosthwait <david at dcvideo.com> 
>>> > To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com> 
>>> > Sent: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 8:08 pm 
>>> > Subject: Re: [QuadList] The Beatles, Washington D.C. 1964 
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>>> > It's good to see that the Washington Concert has been finally > released. The one and only 2" original was reproduced here at DC > Video in 1996 by myself with Apple film archivist Ron Furmanek & > transferred to D2. Ron had recently found and acquired it at the > time for Apple. The 2" tape had three segments, all physically > spliced together. The first was Lesley Gore, the second was The > Beach Boys, and the third was The Beatles. The first two segments > were chosen to be recorded at NBC Burbank because of it's color > capability. The Beatles was recorded on location. The Beatles was > supposed to have been a color remote, but at the last moment, that > was shelved because of problems with the new hand held color > cameras. This production was meant for closed circuit distribution > only. It has not been seen in it's entirety on videotape since. 
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>>> > The tape played well, with only one head clog, which we > retransferred. The audio was distorted on The Beatles performance. 
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>>> > The original tape was found by Ron Furmanek after a lengthy search. > Much credit is deserved by Ron for the additional information > provided about this program and for his efforts with this and other > Beatles projects. 
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>>> > I've held off commenting further about this tape for months as per a > request from those involved. I have since been granted a request > for this post. 
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>>> > David Crosthwait 
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>>> > On Nov 16, 2010, at 2:29 PM, C. Park Seward wrote: 
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>>> > As you know, the Beatles music is finally available on iTunes. As a > gift, you can watch the D.C. concert for free. And it is the > VIDEOTAPE version, not the kine. 
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>>> > Best, 
>>> > Park 
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