[QuadList] Mid Week Quizz (David Crosthwait)

Thu Mar 24 10:44:03 CDT 2011

Is that the model seen here? (The switcher, not the lady!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZUbtrZUAY8&feature=player_detailpage#t=227s

Jeff Martin
Independent Media Arts Preservation

On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:17 AM, quadlist-request at quadvideotapegroup.com wrote:

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>   1. Re: Jan. 21, 1959 Kraft Music Hall--In Color on N-B-C
>      (Dennis Degan)
>   2. Re: Jan. 21, 1959 Kraft Music Hall--In Color on N-B-C
>      (Ted Langdell)
>   3. Re: Mid Week Quizz (Don Norwood)
>   4. Re: Jan. 21, 1959 Kraft Music Hall--In Color on N-B-C
>      (Dennis Degan)
>   5. Re: Mid Week Quizz (David Crosthwait)
> 
> 
> 		On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:
> 
>> The same YouTube poster also posted the first act=9713:09=97of the =
> Jan. =20
> 21, 1959 Kraft Music Hall with Berle, in color.
> 			=
> <http://www.youtube.com/user/vmanfactor5#p/u/6/JdJXvSm3qRk>
>> Notes or comments indicated the announcer was out of NYC, but the =20
> show was shot in Burbank.
>> In thinking about how the show might have been produced, I suppose =20=
> 
> the VO could have been sent down the line to Burbank, but it "feels" =20
> more like a live-switch to live audio, possibly edited into the =20
> Burbank master or the NYC recording of a Burbank feed.
> 
> 		I say:
> 
> 	The announcer was Ed Herlihy, who was based in New York.  =
> Herlihy was =20
> arguably the most famous announcer of all at the time.  His voice was =20=
> 
> prominent in newsreels of the 40's, 50's and into the 60's.  The =20
> reason for his being the announcer for this program was because =20
> Herlihy was the voice of Kraft, handling all of their commercial =20
> voiceovers as well as announcing for "Kraft Music Hall".  I met =20
> Herlihy on the set of Martin Scorcese's "King Of Comedy" in 1982.  =20
> Part of the movie was shot in the TV studio where I worked at the =20
> time, Reeves/Teletape's 81st Street studio.  He performed as the =20
> announcer of the fictitious "Jerry Langford Show".  His is a very =20
> distinctive friendly voice; easily recognizable.
> 	Exactly how his voiceover was done for this Milton Berle special =
> is a =20
> bit of a mystery.  My guess is that in the days before easy =20
> availability of quality audio links between the East and West Coasts, =20=
> 
> it's likely that Herlihy would have flown to Burbank to announce for =20
> the Berle special in person.
> 
> 			Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge =
> Bank
> 	  					NBC Today Show, New York
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Ted Langdell <ted at quadvideotapegroup.com>
> Date: March 24, 2011 7:46:10 AM CDT
> To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Jan. 21, 1959 Kraft Music Hall--In Color on N-B-C
> Reply-To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
> 
> 
> Herlihy might also have been recorded on audio tape and the tape flown to Burbank.  But listening on good speakers, I thought it had a touch of that "Network" sound we all remember from 3,000 miles of telco line.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Dennis Degan wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 		On Mar 24, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:
>> 
>> > The same YouTube poster also posted the first act—13:09—of the Jan. 21, 1959 Kraft Music Hall with Berle, in color.
>> 			<http://www.youtube.com/user/vmanfactor5#p/u/6/JdJXvSm3qRk>
>> > Notes or comments indicated the announcer was out of NYC, but the show was shot in Burbank.
>> > In thinking about how the show might have been produced, I suppose the VO could have been sent down the line to Burbank, but it "feels" more like a live-switch to live audio, possibly edited into the Burbank master or the NYC recording of a Burbank feed.
>> 
>> 		I say:
>> 
>> 	The announcer was Ed Herlihy, who was based in New York.  Herlihy was arguably the most famous announcer of all at the time.  His voice was prominent in newsreels of the 40's, 50's and into the 60's.  The reason for his being the announcer for this program was because Herlihy was the voice of Kraft, handling all of their commercial voiceovers as well as announcing for "Kraft Music Hall".  I met Herlihy on the set of Martin Scorcese's "King Of Comedy" in 1982.  Part of the movie was shot in the TV studio where I worked at the time, Reeves/Teletape's 81st Street studio.  He performed as the announcer of the fictitious "Jerry Langford Show".  His is a very distinctive friendly voice; easily recognizable.
>> 	Exactly how his voiceover was done for this Milton Berle special is a bit of a mystery.  My guess is that in the days before easy availability of quality audio links between the East and West Coasts, it's likely that Herlihy would have flown to Burbank to announce for the Berle special in person.
>> 
>> 			Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
>> 	  					NBC Today Show, New York
>> 
>> 
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> From: "Don Norwood" <dwnorwood at embarqmail.com>
> Date: March 24, 2011 9:31:07 AM CDT
> To: "Quad List" <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Mid Week Quizz
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> 
> Ted & Chris
>  
> You both have parts of it right.  As I indicated earlier, I believe it's a TE-60B (or a TE-60).  I'm not certain of the original intro date, but it was available with TS-40 switchers, but was also used into the early 70's in TS-51 switchers.
>  
> Don Norwood
> Digitrak Communications, Inc.
> www.digitrakcom.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ted Langdell
> To: Quad List
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Mid Week Quizz
> 
> TS= "Television Switcher." TE, "Television Effects."  
> 
> My earlier hasty answer should have said "Effects" not just wipe, because this device does more than just generate wipes.  It's a keyer, as well.  
> 
> Re: Bonus points:  In lieu of model number I'm going to estimate the vintage as 1966-69... although my gut says 1965. And I would have loved to have had my 10-year old hands on one back then : )
> 
> Ted.
> 
> On Mar 23, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Chill315 at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> This is easy
>>  
>> RCA model TS-40 switcher effects system.  TE-40?
>>  
>> Chris Hill
>>  
>> In a message dated 3/23/2011 8:57:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, david at dcvideo.com writes:
>> 
>> 
>> What is this is quad era related thing? Name the manufacturer and (for bonus points) the model #. 
>> 
>> 
>> <ButtonThing.jpeg>
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>> 
>> 
>> Good luck in the contest!
>> 
>> David Crosthwait
>> DC Video
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>> 
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>> =
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> 
> 		On Mar 24, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:
> 
>> Herlihy might also have been recorded on audio tape and the tape  
> flown to Burbank.  But listening on good speakers, I thought it had a  
> touch of that "Network" sound we all remember from 3,000 miles of  
> telco line.
> 
> 		I offer:
> 
> 	I just read further on another Kraft Music Hall Youtube video  
> provided by the same source.  A comment was offered stating that  
> Herlihy did the commercials in New York as the program was fed from  
> Burbank.  This is the best explanation so far as it helps to explain  
> the hard switching seen in the videotape when the program goes to a  
> Kraft commercial.  It is simply a hard switch from the incoming  
> Burbank feed to the commercial originating in New York with Herlihy  
> announcing his voiceover.  The tape is a recording of the New York  
> release studio that feeds the network, including breakups at the  
> beginnings and ends of the commercials.  The breakups are the result  
> of the hard switches made going into and out of the Kraft commercials  
> performed in New York.  They are NOT bad edits in the tape.  This also  
> leads me to believe that the recording was made in New York, not  
> Burbank.
> 
> 			Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
> 	  					NBC Today Show, New York
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: David Crosthwait <david at dcvideo.com>
> Date: March 24, 2011 10:16:55 AM CDT
> To: Quad List <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Mid Week Quizz
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> 
> OK, I know I made this too simple this time.
> 
> Ted is a winner by naming it as "RCA wipe generator", and Don wins the bonus with TE-60B.
> 
> <RCA TE-60B .jpeg>
> 
> 
> Harder material next quiz!
> 
> 
> 
> David Crosthwait
> DC Video
> Archived Media Transfer and Re-mastering Services
> 
> 177 West Magnolia Blvd.
> Burbank, CA. 91502
> 818-563-1073
> 818-563-1177 (fax)
> 818-285-9942 (cell)
> 
> DAVID at DCVIDEO.COM
> WWW.DCVIDEO.COM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Don Norwood wrote:
> 
>> RCA TE-60B SEG
>>  
>> Don Norwood
>> Digitrak Communications, Inc.
>> www.digitrakcom.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Crosthwait
>> To: Quad List
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 8:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Mid Week Quizz
>> 
>> What is this is quad era related thing? Name the manufacturer and (for bonus points) the model #. 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck in the contest!
>> 
>> David Crosthwait
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