[QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA

[David Crosthwait]

Bet Ampex got no money from this design. 



Above: Non-free world VTR


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On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Bill Carpenter wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> The quad patent package was well controlled and also applied to helicals and continued through the mid 80's to the best of my knowledge. We made money on everybody that made a Quad and later a helical video recorder in the free world. 
> I have seen the product shipment reports for most manufacturers. 
> The Ginsberg patent related to the FM recording system and was the basis of the package.
> 
> Bye for now, Bill & Ginger (whoof...whoof)
> 
> --- On Mon, 3/21/11, Don Norwood <dwnorwood at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Don Norwood <dwnorwood at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA
> To: "Quad List" <quadlist at quadvideotapegroup.com>
> Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:19 AM
> 
> Hi Ted:
>  
> By the time Merlin got thru with the machine, it had an Ampex headwheel, Ampex audio heads and an Ampex pinch roller.  Whether those were part of the original Shibaden design I do not know.  Ken Zin can probably tell us.
>  
> In the "fine print" of the question Chris originally asked, he did say only original manufacturers that did not rely on the major parts of other manufacturers.  Some of these machines, like the Visual/Allen, would not exist without the "big guy's" parts.  On the other hand, machines like the Bosch are clearly original.  I think the intention was to explore how many companies actually made quads from top to bottom.  Otherwise, I could be a "manufacturer" since I've built and sold machines made out of a variety of parts. 
>  
> Don 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ted Langdell
> To: Ted Langdell
> Cc: Quad List
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by AmpexorRCA
> 
> Hi, Bill, 
> 
> Sorry if the below sound a little sharp in reply... Not much sleep. Too much going on.
> 
> The Shibaden catalog pictures and text would be of great interest.  If you find it again, please try to scan and post.
> 
> Anyone else have some Shibaden info?
> 
> Ted
> 
> On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Ted Langdell wrote:
> 
>> The Shibaden SV-7000 Quad used in the Merlin duplicating system doesn't look like any RCA I've seen... 
>> 
>> See the deck and some historic pictures at http://www.labguysworld.com/Merlin_ME68.htm
>> 
>> Don Norwood posted two different brochures for the system on June 3, 2009 (Re: [QuadList] Fwd: Merlinized Shibaden for Vidtronics' dub system(wasToshiba))
>> 
>> Ted
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 7:13 AM, <bill.spencer at northstarstudios.tv> <bill.spencer at northstarstudios.tv> wrote:
>> 
>>> I used to have a Shibaden catalog from the 70s that showed their quads and they looked to be RCA clones if not rebadged RCA.
>>> Bill Spencer
>>> NorthStar Studios, Inc.
>>> 3201 Dickerson Pike
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>>> From: quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com [mailto:quadlist-bounces at quadvideotapegroup.com] On Behalf Of Ted Langdell
>>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:28 AM
>>> To: Quad List
>>> Subject: Re: [QuadList] Another Jeporady Question-Quads not made by Ampex orRCA
>>> 2" Quads:
>>> Bosch              (Germany)
>>> Visual/Allen    (Bosch transport and heads from Germany w/Visual/Allen Electronics from US)
>>> Shibaden                     (Japan)
>>> TAMCO                      (Japanese partnership btw. Ampex and Toshiba making Ampex designed machines in Japan)
>>> 1" Quad:
>>>             Asaka (Japan) Company also known as Asaka/ShibaSoku
>>> Sony, NHK made 2" Quad prototypes in Japan.
>>> I suspect there are more to be found.  The hunt continues!  (We need some Japanese QuadList members!)
>>> Ted
>>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Chill315 at aol.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We all know the Ampex and RCA machines.  A number of us have seen other machines in use.  So the question of the day is.
>>> What other manufactures built quad machine? 
>>> The answer can not be a refurbished machine that was built on someone else's platform.  I know of two of the manufactures.  I do not know a third one but am aware of the machine.  There may be more.
>>>  
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