[QuadList] OT Bell Tone Record--Try ASRC list--

COURYHOUSE at aol.com COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Sat Mar 15 22:02:05 CDT 2014


well  the Alu isd   just the  substrate... there  is  something on top  of 
the Alu. that  gets the groves....
 
I have some  were the   recordable   laquer   or plastic  or whatever has 
separated as a sheet.
 
ed sharpe
 
 
In a message dated 3/15/2014 7:13:31 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
ted at quadvideotapegroup.com writes:




Optical may be an option, regardless of the disc's composition.  The  
question is cost?


http://newsdesk.si.edu/factsheets/early-sound-recording-collection-and-sound
-recovery-project


and http://bio16p.lbl.gov/volta-release-2013.html


It doesn't appear to be lacquer from the photo.  Looks much like a  larger 
version of the small aluminum disc my dad recorded.



If the person on the disc is of some reknown or a historical figure, a  
library or museum might want to accept the disc into its collections, do work  
necessary to safely recover the content and provide a digital file of the 
disc  to the donor.




Here are some things to consider, courtesy of _Eric Jacobs_ 
(http://www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_About_Who.htm) ,  of _The Audio  Archive_ 
(http://www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Resources_Sitemap.htm) , whom I have used to transfer 
client's discs:


http://www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Disc_Overview.htm


Scroll all the way to the bottom for details about Aluminum discs, on  
which the grooves were cut directly into the alumnimum discs.


Here's a separate page about transcription discs... a different  animal.
http://www.theaudioarchive.com/TAA_Resources_Disc_Transcription.htm



Hope this helps.



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ted


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On Mar 15, 2014, at 5:46 PM, _couryhouse at aol.com_ 
(mailto:couryhouse at aol.com)  wrote:




might be good to have it optically  read.
 
laquer  can instantly  crumble......
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/15/2014 4:08:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
_ted at quadvideotapegroup.com_ (mailto:ted at quadvideotapegroup.com)   writes:






On Mar 15, 2014, at 1:56 AM, Scott Thomas wrote:




 
A TV director I follow on Twitter had this question:
https://twitter.com/LiveTVDirector/statuses/444589406549065729 
(https://twitter.com/LiveTVDirector/statuses/444589406549065729) 

"This Bell Tone record is the only known recording of my great  uncle Leo 
from 1941. He died in WWII. How do I play it? "


The link has the image of the record.


I figured this would be a bit more involved than just getting a  turntable. 
Any ideas?




You are correct.  



Stylus type, dimensions, shape, tracking force, turntable direction  and 
speed all play a role in not damaging the disc, and getting the full  fidelity 
from the recording.



The Association for Recorded Sound Collections list might be  helpful. 

Start here: http://www.arsc-audio.org/index.php



A series of closer pictures showing the label, logo, surface of the  disc, 
particularly with a fine-division ruler or something else to show  the 
groove spacing could help. 


Measurement of the disc thickness might offer some clues.  



The writing on the bottom of the bell isn't clear, but may have some  
helpful details.



Since the logo bears reference to being registered with the US Patent  
Office, that might offer some information about the company involved,  location 
and possible dates.


http://www.uspto.gov/


A search of both trademarks and patents might be necessary to  determine 
whether the Bell Tone logo was registered before the Patent  Office became the 
US Patent and Trademark Office.


I did a bit of searching and didn't seem to come up with anything  related 
to either a recording company or a type of recording method.




Anectode:



I had an aluminum disc my now 99-year old dad recorded on a trip to  the 
Empire State Building in the early 30s.  It was packaged with a  bamboo stylus 
for (safe?) playback on a 78 rpm phonograph with removable  stylus pickup.  



On a trip to the Empire State Building in 1968, I think that the  same 
booth he used to record his disc was still there... in the elevator  lobby of 
the observation deck, if my gray matter storage system is  working well.



I can't recall what I used to make a transfer multi-decades ago.  I think I 
managed to kluge something to use the bamboo  stylus. 



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Ted


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