[QuadList] Gene Kelley Show color recording system--which wasused?

[Don Norwood]

Hello Guy:

The Ampex Colortec for the VR-1000/1100/1200/2000 has a non-phased mode. 
I've never used it, so I don't know how it would work with the RCA tapes. 
Of course the Colortec is not applicable to the AVR-1.  I also seem to 
recall that some of the early RCA color tapes were recorded with different 
carrier frequencies and deviation from what was later set as the LBC 
standard, so that could also require modifications to a standard demod.

But now that I think about it, didn't the production version color TRT-1 
record a full-bandwidth signal and use the heterodyne system only for 
playback?  In that case, an original recording should play back just fine, 
but a dub using that system would be non-phased.  Or, I could be totally 
off-base.  It's been a while since I thought about TRT-1s!

Don

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Subject: Re: [QuadList] Gene Kelley Show color recording system--which 
wasused?


Perhaps the tape was an early RCA heterodyne/non-phased color
recording.  I  think this was the color system used by the TRT-1 series
color recorders.
I've never actually one of these recordings to play, even back in the
day, but most of the earlier color RCA quad machines had that
"non-phased color" mode as a playback option.  I don't remember that
Ampex ever addressed this for playback, so perhaps that's why the custom
modules had to be made for the AVR-1.
Guy
www.GuySpiller.com




Ted Langdell wrote:
> Hi, David...
>
>> On Dec 27, 2008, at 2:10 PM, dcfwtx at aol.com <mailto:dcfwtx at aol.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I transferred "The Gene Kelly Show" several years ago for a now deceased 
>>> client to Digtial Betacam. RCA non-standard 2" low band color recording 
>>> on our modified AVR-1 using proprietary modules. One hour show. Burbank 
>>> recording.
>>>
>>> David Crosthwait
>>> DC Video
>>> www.dcvideo.com <http://www.dcvideo.com>
>
>
> In 1988, KTLA Engineer Don Kent and Engineer/Historian Ed Reitan were 
> involved in the transfer of the 1958 Astaire special and other early Quad 
> color tapes.
>
> Don did the playback off an AVR-1 that he got KTLA  to donate to UCLA's 
> film and television archive.
> Ed modified ten boards that replaced stock ones on this AVR-1, the last 
> working Quad at KTLA.  It is now part of the CBS Television City Quad 
> array, where CBS maintains its health.
>
> Ed e-mailed me when we first put Quadvideotapegroup.com live:
> "As clarification, I use the terminology "RCA Labs Color" for the format 
> of the original Eisenhower, Astaire, and other NBC color tapes used on the 
> modified Ampex machines at Burbank from early 1958 through at least April 
> 1959.
>
> I suggest the term "RCA Broadcast Color" for the format of the tapes 
> produced by the RCA TRT-1AC, the first color recorder produced by RCA 
> Broadcast of Camden, N.J., and also used by NBC at Burbank starting in 
> April, 1958.
> These are distinguished from tapes made to the later “Low Band Color“ 
> standard later promulgated by SMPTE."
>
> *David: * Do you remember which system and machine(s) were used on the 
> Kelly special?
>
> Can you tell us more about the tape itself?  Was it a first generation 
> tape?  Any splices? etc.  Very hard to recover?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
>
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